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Thursday, May 20th, 2021 12:15 AM

Finding out why fiber is installed everywhere but my street

95% of my small town have had fiber for months, but not my street.  How do I find out why and when?

Scholar

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3.8K Messages

3 years ago

What is the closest street where it is available using the availability checker tool: http://www.att.com/availability

Just enter a couple of addresses for reference. Do you have overhead utilities or underground utilities?

I am sure there are more than just your street does not have Fiber.

Dave

Former Employee

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22.2K Messages

3 years ago

https://broadbandnow.com/

Enter your zip code to find the percentage of ATT Fiber installed for the zip code.

I am not aware of any zip code that is 100% ATT Fiber.... there are certain zip codes that are over 90% some may even be 95% but there are still certain streets, neighborhoods not covered.

The highest percentages from my observations are where Google Fiber is also available... no Google Fiber the percentages will be lower.

Thus certain areas will have different coverage.

from online...

https://broadbandnow.com/Google-Fiber#:~:text=As%20of%202021%2C%20Google%20Fiber,San%20Jose%2C%20Salt%20Lake%20City%2C

As of 2021, Google Fiber is available in, Atlanta, Austin, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Huntsville, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Louisville, Miami, Nashville, Oakland, Oklahoma City, Orange County, Phoenix, Portland, Provo, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Seattle, and Tampa.

Google Fiber generally expanded neighborhood by neighborhood in these areas, so access varies depending on address. Expansion of Google’s fiber network has been on pause recently as the company attempts to justify the massive $1 Billion/city cost of installing Fiber to the Home services.

https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/google-fiber-explained/

To be fair, Google Fiber is long established in some areas. Before temporarily halting fiber expansion in 2016, the company brought service to 11 major US markets. Even in those cities though, Google's internet service didn't reach all, or even most, households, leaving many wondering when and if their neighborhood would be eligible for service. Meanwhile, residents of 34 other metropolitan areas who were teased with the possibility of getting Google Fiber early on are still wondering if it will come to their city at all.

New Member

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3 years ago

You're in part correct - I finally found a link (not AT&T, who make you randomly enter neighbors to try and figure out coverage), and it's 72% in my town.  "My town" is about 7 miles X 2 miles, not huge, and it's hard for me to see why they would subdivide coverage to even smaller areas than that.  But clearly they do.

Scholar

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3.8K Messages

3 years ago

Those third party sites don't always have the correct or updated information. Hey even the AT&T Availability tool does not always have the correct data.

Each fiber area is engineered to cover a specific area and a specific number of customers. It turns out that you can't just extend Fiber as most customer think. 

Normally it deigned to stop at a street intersection but it can  also stop at an address midway down a block. There are also situations where it is available on one side of a street but not on the other side.

Dave

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3 years ago

And if some parts (across the street, say) have had it for some time, and others don't, does that mean they never will?  As I said, I don't understand the "engineering" of area and customers.  But it amounts to:  I can't request it, they provide no rationale or explanation of when to expect it, other than my call to customer service who said it was based on "demand".  Meanwhile their (Edited per community guidelines) is telling me it's already in my town.  But I'm done venting (which is what this has become, and it's wasting everybody's time, and AT&T doesn't care), so I'll stop now.

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Former Employee

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3 years ago

Each area is a grid, say a 6x6 block... outside the grid such as other side of street is not service from that grid, but would need a whole new fiber buildout.

Fiber from central office to PFP that will service the area grid... each fiber strand is connected to a fiber splitter, generally a 1:32 splitter (prism) that uses a 2.5G fiber line divided into 32 different colors. As the fiber web leaves the PFP a certain number of fiber strands are left at each fiber terminal location. Example would be 100 strand fiber could provide for 25 fiber terminals with 4 fiber connections each.... note that 3 fiber splitters would be 96 connections.

example of 4 port aerial fiber terminal

Questions about installation. | AT&T Community Forums

There are many factors that can determine who will receive fiber...

* is it new construction development of apartment, condo, subdivision?

* Population density, how many residential units in square mile, the denser the neighborhood the more likely to have fiber upgrade. A city block with 50x120 lot with 10 homes per block versus a lot of 250x1000 feet, as cost per foot is similar will get a better return on wiring 5 homes on city block versus 1 home on larger lot.

* aerial (pole) or burial (underground) can wire more locations faster and less cost from a pole compared to boring underground all wiring.

* does the area already have FTTN (fiber to the node) with speeds of 100, 75, 50, 25... as fiber is already in the neighborhood (VRAD) only need to replace last section copper with fiber compared to non VRAD areas where need to install fiber from the central office to PFP before wiring the grid area. The majority of next 7 million addresses (5 million?) over 2 years (2021-2022) will be from FTTN areas of which there are about 24 million locations, thus about 20% of FTTN should be upgraded by 2023.

* willingness of local government to work with ATT in providing fiber... if local wants a lot of restrictions or denying permits, easier to just move onto the next city or town. 

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example of fiber PFP, note the yellow fiber jumpers parked along the bottom waiting to be assigned to an address... this PFP supports up to 144 addresses, 12 connections across by 12 rolls down. The splitter is located in top part of cabinet see the blue? That is one splitter, additional splitter will be added as more addresses sign up for the fiber service.

ATT construction in our neighborhood | AT&T Community Forums

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New Member

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8 Messages

3 years ago

Thanks for that.  I look at all of your questions, and my difficulty understanding  is that the answers to all of your conditional questions are, or appear to be, the same for the blocks with and without fiber.  It just would be nice to be able to know when, and/or if, fiber will get to my neighborhood.  Thanks again for the helpful description!

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1 year ago

@my thoughts what's interesting is that for my neighborhood, we have those exact things in the picture you have shown. The AT&T fiber junction box as well as the AT&T Fiber lines on the poles with the labels. There's even underground wiring into our community that has AT&T labels. However, for years, we still do not have fiber available. I just want to have someone survey the community to be able to truly say they can't when the whole infrastructure is already in place.

Tutor

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2 Messages

1 year ago

I have been hoping for years that ATT fiber would come to my neighborhood so I can get away from Spectrum. My friend across town has it in his neighborhood and he loves being out from under spectrum's boot. Come on ATT! help me escape the brutal reign of spectrum!

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