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Sunday, January 29th, 2023 6:29 PM

DSL to fiber

I am continually bombarded with offers to upgrade to Fiber from my DSL line, calls, letters, emails. I have talked with linemen nearby, people nearby that work for Att and they all say it’s not available. Even their website says it’s not available. Only their reps tell me it is and I’m concerned they are just trying to get me to relinquish my dsl regardless of whether fiber is available or not. Once I drop my dsl to ‘ upgrade’ apparently there is no going back even if fiber turns out to be not available as I suspect. 

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1 year ago

The website has to show it, otherwise you can't place an order.  Even if the website suddenly says it's available, there's still a decent possibility that it's not.  Sometimes sales is told the fiber is lit up only to discover when the installer shows up that your home has some issue upstream that prevents it from being connected.  Do you have any option from other Internet providers because I agree that blindly ordering it could put your DSL connection at jeopardy where you'd be stuck.

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1 year ago

What is your data cap? Speed tier subscription?

Legacy DSL is 150G cap with overage charges up to $200 per month.

Best speed available would be 6 or less.

Uverse xDSL has a 1T data cap with overage charges up to $100.

Uverse platform also has an unlimited data for extra $30 per month while LEgACY DSL does not have this option.

For Uverse Internet no tech release (turning off old service) should not be completed until fiber with good light level is at the home. This is normally done 1 to 2 hours after the tech is on site.

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1 year ago

The last mile of DSL and fiber are completely separate infrastructure and come into your property using entirely separate and different types of physical cables. I would be highly skeptical of anyone telling me I'm required to cancel my existing copper line service first (IIRC DSL and fiber are separate businesses within ATT), and I certainly wouldn't drop what works - leaving me without any service for however long until fiber comes, and also with attendant risk that they're not going to let me have my DSL back if fiber later turns out to be an empty sales promise.

There's no legit reason I'm aware of you should have to cancel your DSL service before and until your fiber is installed, running, and you're happy.

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1 year ago

Thanks all, ya fiber speeds are tempting given my dsl is indeed only 15mbps but I don’t buy its acuralotodo available. I have called them a couple times and it’s only the reps that say it is. And they ask for passwords and the wording is they will ’switch’ me over. Seems I’ll never get it back if they do. 

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1 year ago

And no, nothing else available up where I live aside from satellite. Btw, no one else can get on dsl in my area either. Gonna hold on to it till I know otherwise!

Former Employee

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22.2K Messages

1 year ago

If none can order any ATT hardwired service suggests your LEGACY DSL in rural to semi rural area with only satellite Internet option.

ATT plan for these areas is cell tower hotspot, fiber to the tower not to the home.

Estimated 20+% of addresses within the 21 state footprint will be 4G LTE or 5G cellular.

from March 2022…

https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/att-wants-cut-its-copper-footprint-half-2025

AT&T executives revealed the operator is working to reduce its copper footprint by 50% by 2025…

Around 20% of AT&T’s network footprint, or about 16 million locations, is served by fiber today. By 2025, McElfresh said AT&T is aiming to boost that figure to cover 75% of its network with either fiber or 5G. The operator plans to rollout wireless-based "catch products" in former copper markets where it doesn't deploy fiber to serve customers who might otherwise be left out in the cold due to its copper retirement plan, he added.….

as it works toward a previously announced target of covering a total of 30 million homes with the technology by 2025


takeaways

75% of addresses with fiber to home or 5G coverage

previously announced 30+ million homes (50% of footprint) to have FTTP

leaves 25% of addresses will have cell tower only option as either hotspot or fixed wireless.



edit… by the numbers….

total footprint estimate 75+ million

80% of footprint hardwired for total 60 million

50% of hardwired footprint to be FTTP direct fiber for 30 miilion

conclusion… by 2026

30+ million FTTP

30+ million xDSL Uverse platform deployed 2006-end 2015 

15+ million cell tower 5G only

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4 Messages

1 year ago

Thanks to MyThoughts for the info. Jives with much of what I’ve heard regarding retirement of copper infrastructure. Until they prove there’s another option for me I’ll be hanging onto my dsl as long as possible. A number of companies seem to be offering wireless hotspot options but those too, are not available where I live. Bit of a waiting game…

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1 year ago

ccranger do not get rid of it until after you have other internet set up. I too can only get DSL line, I am too far from a box for cable (although everyone around me has it), I tried the wireless U-Verse but my house sits next to a hill and it uses towers and I could not get a signal. I do have satellite with Viasat (Excede) but I run out of GB all the time and when they say it slows down they mean you can't stream crap. So I have both the DSL and satellite and hope that they will put in fiber or upgrade the old lines. I was once told by an ATT service person that my only other option was to move! I might even have to get a second satellite just to keep up with all the streaming, its so frustrating.

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